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ID: 680 Title: Cruising yachties are doing you a BIG favor Usually Replis: 9 Read: 3025 Author: 3  Page:1  2  
Name: Disperser.Wolf  Posts: 11    Vancouver Time: 2016-10-27_16:22:53 Quote    Reply
You make it sound like you did all the work to achieve what you have, that you busted your ass to be able to afford something no one else can.

I call bullshit. You don't get rich by working hard. If that were the case, there would be a lot of rich people. There aren't. Rich people are lazy. They get rich by exploiting, by taking advantage of rules and regulations or lack thereof that allow their selfish nature to take from others solely because they can.

And you think that crew should be grateful that you provide them with such "opportunities" as you do, such "bargains." Well, sir, the ONLY reason you get the money you get for your bed-and-breakfast is because there are people out there too lazy to provide for themselves, and thus they exploit others, much like you do, but on a smaller scale, and then take their gains and give some of them to you, while you exploit their desire to enjoy the fruits of their efforts to exploit others as well.

So, where do crew come in? Crew want to take advantage - not of you, but of the only opportunity they have to enjoy the world of sailing, because they live in a world where the dominant paradigm is f*** your fellow human over and take away their ability to enjoy this planet and its resources because greedy people like you want control, power over those resources and the people who would share them. So, in order to enjoy this planet and its resources, they have to "take advantage" of the "opportunities" you "provide" so that they can see the world that has been stolen from them by selfish, greedy people who see fit to exploit, rather than to actually bust their ass and work for a living to provide for a better world for EVERYONE.

So, I think it is YOU who should be getting down on your knees and kissing some ass. I think you should be grateful that those people have the discipline to come aboard your ship and not just take from you like you took from them and everyone else on this planet.

But most of all, I think you ought to realign your perception and consider yourself very lucky to be able to have that ship, and that bed and breakfast. Or better yet, enjoy them while you can, because when your society breaks down and the rules your kind wrote are made invalid as they should be, then people like me are going to find people like you and deprive you of what you have stolen. And I dearly, dearly look forward to seeing the look in the faces of people like you when I toss your ass off your boat naked, and toss all your money (especially your gold, jewelry and other heavy valuables) to you with instructions to make the best of that money to see how long it will keep you alive when there is no one around stupid enough to believe it is actually anything more than paper.

I'd love if it you could tell the audience how much of the work to build, upgrade, customize, repair, and maintain that boat is actually done by you, and how much is done by the people whose labor and livelihoods you exploit and take and steal from and lie to so that you can sit on your ass while slave labor accomplishes what you are patently incapable of - a hard day's work.

I'd also love it if you could ponder a future where your money and your "power" have no meaning, and where you would have to rely on those whom you believe should kiss your feet or ass or whatever for your very survival, because you lack the most basic skills of surviving outside of the ridiculous exploitive society you have helped create and sustain and which has come at the cost of the freedom of everyone else on this planet, as well as the resources and very ability of this planet to support actual human life.

Name: OCEAN SAILOR  Posts: 147  **  Vancouver Time: 2016-11-9_16:56:23 Quote    Reply
Hey mate (Disperser.Wolf)

that's a bit over the top. He's not that rich.
You do not say what kind of vessel you have and where you go sailing offering free on aboard to be with you, to help you sail the vessel

The Guy is a charter boat operator obviously and should operate as a charter vessel is my pitch. He should have a marine survey for the vessel and a commercial ticket to do what he is doing and insurance with a public liability insurance cover also to provide compensation when the shit hits the fan and things go wrong which do happen. He spun a good story to make a intending person think they would be getting a good deal. That's the bullshit part. YES. Give him credit for his sales skills.

He has all those bunks available so he can make a living from doing what is a incredible life style but he should be honest about the fact.

It's not bullshit that building a boat is hard work. I believe him he build it or he purchased it. Try building a boat yourself before you rave on like a DONALD TRUMP or find a mate who is and try giving him free labour for a couple on months or are you a mirror off your own criticism off him If he had a bed and breakfast place like in Hawaii then he would have smaller boat say 45 ft as sail it with a few crew members (experienced so they would not have to contribute for him to sail where he likes and provide them with return airfares.)
Obviously as bed and breakfast places make good income/profit and whilst sailing would still make a income with a manager running the place. It is marine law that s skipper can not ditch the crew at any port he choses for them to find their own way home or onwards. He must provide airfares or the harbour master,immigration will not allow him to leave port. Either until the crew member is on board or a air ticket out of the country he has entered.

Also as the skipper when he enters port he signs a declaration that he is liable for all crew debts on shore, fines, damage caused by them, gambling debts, unpaid charges they charge on trust to pay when they wish to rejoin the ship on departure date. If a crew member wishes to book a hotel / motel

So get real and post an apology you over educated weasel. I bet you do not pay the airfares for the crew you take on board for passages and I bet you do not do the grave yard shift / watch. You would probably take the watches that you are custom to when on shore and have the crew to do the shit watches. YES. That is the usual story with skippers / owners.
Name: Disperser.Wolf  Posts: 11    Vancouver Time: 2016-11-14_15:20:37 Quote    Reply
Well Ocean Saver, your assumptions are quite telling, as is the fundamental basis of your argument.

And you have the nerve to demand that I apologize? How dare you? You are defending this man because you are a greedy, selfish, hedonist yourself. You want the opportunity to rip people off, to exploit people and the precious resources of this planet so you can gain unfairly over others who are not willing to selfishly exploit. So, the entire basis of your argument is flawed, as is the basis for your judgment.

And your comments about my being "over-educated" are also quite telling. Tell me, how in the hell can you be "over educated?" Nevermind, I'll tell you, since you are woefully ignorant (read: under-educated) The only way someone is "over-educated" is in an argument an ignorant fool cannot win. So, rather than attack my arguments, you attack me, to distract those whom you wish to impress with what is no more than an emotion-based fallacy, a lie, told by you to cover your own ignorance and factual incorrectness and lack of ability to form a solid argument. And the really insane part is that you know damn well I'm right, but you persist in defending what you believe because it better suits your desire to continue to exploit your fellow man.

I suppose that since you own this forum, you will "win" the argument by simply removing the opponent from the equation, by banning me and/or censoring me. That's typical of you ignorant under-educated morons, you know? You can't win an argument, so you use your "power" as the "owner" of this "resource" to filter out the opinions you don't like because they challenge the very basis of your mindset, failing to realize you are doing exactly what the US Mainstream Media did which created the farce that was the 2016 Presidential Election.

Don't argue with me sir. I do not put my thoughts into words until I have ensured that they can stand up to any and all tests. I do not make a habit of telling lies, nor of opining about something I am not absolutely confident about.

Defend the status quo all you will, but in doing so, also realize you are defending the right of everyone around you to also exploit you, treat you like shit, and marginalize you just as you do to others.
Name: OCEAN SAILOR  Posts: 147  **  Vancouver Time: 2016-11-21_18:23:59 Quote    Reply


So I own the site "web Page do I ?

Your Quotation

"I suppose that since you own this forum, you will "win" the argument by simply removing the opponent from the equation, by banning me and/or censoring me.

That's typical of you ignorant under-educated morons, you know? You can't win an argument, so you use your "power" as the "owner" of this "resource" to filter out the opinions you don't like because they challenge the very basis of your mindset, failing to realize you are doing exactly what the US Mainstream Media did which created the farce that was the 2016 Presidential Election."

Laughable Flawed. A farce was it?

TOM does not ban Posters. You must be new to this Forum.

I don't think TOM will be impressed with that statement or your posts.
Are you on Cocaine when you write your ravings.

You are entitled to your thoughts
Do you have trouble retaining crew?

Have a nice DAY.

Are you winning?













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